{"id":4334,"date":"2021-09-22T10:03:25","date_gmt":"2021-09-22T17:03:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/songexploder.net\/?p=4334"},"modified":"2025-03-19T09:21:40","modified_gmt":"2025-03-19T16:21:40","slug":"lucy-dacus","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/songexploder.net\/lucy-dacus","title":{"rendered":"Episode 218: Lucy Dacus"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"subhead\">&#8220;Thumbs&#8221;<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-4335\" src=\"https:\/\/songexploder.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/SongExploder218-LucyDacus-600x338.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" srcset=\"https:\/\/songexploder.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/SongExploder218-LucyDacus-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/songexploder.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/SongExploder218-LucyDacus-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/songexploder.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/SongExploder218-LucyDacus-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/songexploder.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/SongExploder218-LucyDacus.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><!-- PRX PLAYER EMBED --><br \/>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/play.prx.org\/e?ge=prx_93_ed57fe93-6421-4ec2-8afd-3b2565d49a3a&amp;uf=http%3A%2F%2Ffeed.songexploder.net%2FSongExploder\" width=\"600\" height=\"200\" frameborder=\"0\"><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\"><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span>\ufeff<\/span><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><!-- PRX PLAYER EMBED CODE ENDS --><\/p>\n<div class=\"download-links\">LISTEN: <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/lucy-dacus-thumbs\/id788236947?i=1000536303449\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">APPLE PODCASTS<\/a> \u00b7 <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/2LYePTQGJOKhXXjHm4PSBs?si=SPSQauHwROGFPj8DSPB4zA&amp;dl_branch=1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">SPOTIFY<\/a><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/lucydacus.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Lucy Dacus<\/a> is a singer and songwriter from Richmond, Virginia. She put out her first album in 2016, and in 2018 she formed the band <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Boygenius\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">boygenius<\/a> with <a href=\"https:\/\/julienbaker.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Julien Baker<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/phoebefuckingbridgers.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Phoebe Bridgers.<\/a> In June 2021, she released her third album, <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Home_Video_(album)\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>Home Video,<\/em><\/a> which includes the song &#8220;Thumbs.&#8221; The first time I heard it, I knew I wanted to ask Lucy about how and why she made it. After some COVID testing, we spoke in person here in Los Angeles, and she told me the story of how &#8220;Thumbs&#8221; took months and months to get right.<\/p>\n<p>You can <a href=\"https:\/\/song.link\/us\/i\/1559506600\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">buy or stream &#8220;Thumbs&#8221; here.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>For a transcript of this episode, <a href=\"http:\/\/songexploder.net\/transcripts\/lucy-dacus-transcript.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">click here.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><i>Illustration by <\/i><i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.lerms.net\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Carlos Lerma<\/a><\/i><i>.<\/i><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span class=\"header\">footnotes<\/span><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.collinpastore.com\/biography\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Collin Pastore, co-producer<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/beanslover_jacob\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Jacob Blizard, guitarist<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/ricardolagomasino.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ricardo Lagomasino, drummer<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tracehorse.com\/about-recording-studio\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Trace Horse Studio<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Thumbs&#8221; \ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff\ufeff LISTEN: APPLE PODCASTS \u00b7 SPOTIFY Lucy Dacus is a singer and songwriter from Richmond, Virginia. She put out her first album in 2016, and in 2018 she formed the band boygenius with Julien Baker and Phoebe Bridgers. 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