{"id":5185,"date":"2025-09-17T08:40:18","date_gmt":"2025-09-17T15:40:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/songexploder.net\/?p=5185"},"modified":"2025-09-23T17:15:24","modified_gmt":"2025-09-24T00:15:24","slug":"ethel-cain","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/songexploder.net\/ethel-cain","title":{"rendered":"Episode 299: Ethel Cain"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"subhead\">&#8220;Nettles&#8221;<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/songexploder.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SongExploder299-EthelCain-600x338.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-5186\" srcset=\"https:\/\/songexploder.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SongExploder299-EthelCain-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/songexploder.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SongExploder299-EthelCain-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/songexploder.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SongExploder299-EthelCain-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/songexploder.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SongExploder299-EthelCain.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><!-- PRX PLAYER EMBED CODE --><iframe loading=\"lazy\" allow=\"monetization\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" width=\"100%\" style=\"min-width: 300px\" src=\"https:\/\/play.prx.org\/e?ge=prx_93_ea7e7ccd-1d42-410a-b6a2-ebb3938e4b46&#038;uf=http%3A%2F%2Ffeed.songexploder.net%2FSongExploder\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><!-- PRX PLAYER EMBED CODE ENDS --><\/p>\n<p><!-- LISTEN LINKS --><\/p>\n<div class=\"download-links\">LISTEN: <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/ethel-cain-nettles\/id788236947?i=1000727212828\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">APPLE<\/a> \u00b7 <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/5vLODM21rmIPt0v9oCtLVI?si=xgkf8ElJTn-xLjOzvTj7Ew\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">SPOTIFY<\/a> \u00b7 <a href=\"https:\/\/music.amazon.com\/podcasts\/58a85de5-7ebb-464c-a13e-9d3008deb3bb\/episodes\/e766b84b-fbf8-4459-9847-3163b6bfb5e2\/song-exploder-ethel-cain---nettles\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">AMAZON<\/a> \u00b7 <a href=\"https:\/\/pod.link\/songexploder\/episode\/cHJ4XzkzX2VhN2U3Y2NkLTFkNDItNDEwYS1iNmEyLWViYjM5MzhlNGI0Ng\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">OTHER APPS<\/a><\/div>\n<p>Hayden Anhed\u00f6nia has been making music under the name <a href=\"https:\/\/www.daughtersofcain.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ethel Cain<\/a> since 2019. But it\u2019s not just a band name or a moniker; Ethel Cain is a fictional character, a sort of alter ego that Hayden\u2019s been creating and world building around throughout her albums. The first Ethel Cain album, <a href=\"https:\/\/album.link\/us\/i\/1619405400\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>Preacher\u2019s Daughter<\/em><\/a>, came out in 2022. It ended up blowing up, and it made Hayden the first openly trans artist with an album in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.billboard.com\/pro\/ethel-cain-preachers-daughter-number-1-billboard-charts-vinyl\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">top ten on the Billboard chart.<\/a> In 2025, she put out the second Ethel Cain album, called <a href=\"https:\/\/album.link\/us\/i\/1818431571\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>Willoughby Tucker, I\u2019ll Always Love You.<\/em><\/a> For this episode, I talked to Hayden about how she made the song <a href=\"https:\/\/song.link\/us\/i\/1818431577\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u201cNettles.\u201d<\/a> As you\u2019re about to hear, it took on a lot of different forms, over several years, before she got to the final version. <\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"720\" height=\"405\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/sP0us82q1ck?si=WIJrEkVlAE-6V9v8\" title=\"YouTube video player\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>You can buy or stream &#8220;Nettles&#8221; <a href=\"https:\/\/song.link\/us\/i\/1818431577\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">here.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>Illustration by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lerms.net\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Carlos Lerma.<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>For a transcript of this episode, <a href=\"https:\/\/songexploder.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Song-Exploder-Ethel-Cain-Transcript.pdf\">click here.<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span class=\"header\">footnotes:<\/span><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/colyer\/?hl=en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Steven Colyer<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/bryanrulez\/?hl=en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Bryan De Leon<\/a> &#8211; drums<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cigarettesaftersex.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Cigarettes After Sex<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.beachhousebaltimore.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Beach House<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/muscleshoalssoundstudio.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Muscle Shoals<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Nettles&#8221; LISTEN: APPLE \u00b7 SPOTIFY \u00b7 AMAZON \u00b7 OTHER APPS Hayden Anhed\u00f6nia has been making music under the name Ethel Cain since 2019. But it\u2019s not just a band name or a moniker; Ethel Cain is a fictional character, a sort of alter ego that Hayden\u2019s been creating and world building around throughout her albums. 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